In my experience, women would much rather discuss how women have been wronged by men than talk about the insidious ways in which women try to take down other women. Reading the “Trashing” essay published by Ms. in the 1970s was really validating, after I’d burned out on all the infighting in the feminist organization I led
Yes!!! I see this as a kind of “first they came for…” scenario. Women who aligned with Hugh Hefner were targeted with stigma and mean girl shunning (what’s now known as canceling). Once that became the norm in the feminist culture, it was only a matter of time before they used it against each other. "Trashing" got attention, but it didn't open a broad enough discussion.
Perfect last paragraph, so true, and never thought of this as connected to/and or starting back during this Playboy era, really good perspective on it!
“ A singular focus on how men treated women meant a failure at addressing the way that women treated women. Actually, by taking full advantage of the stigma against playmates in their opposition to Playboy, feminists did more than simply ignore the issue”.
Reading “A Bunny’s Tale” with a beginner’s mind, instead of going into it thinking only of misogyny as the shiny object I’m supposed to be looking for, opened this up for me. It was revelatory.
In Ms. Stienams' treatment of the women working for Playboy, I can't help but draw parallels to women in the music industry, in particular rap and hip-hop. Would Steinam dare treat Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion in a similar fashion? I think we know the answer.
In my experience, women would much rather discuss how women have been wronged by men than talk about the insidious ways in which women try to take down other women. Reading the “Trashing” essay published by Ms. in the 1970s was really validating, after I’d burned out on all the infighting in the feminist organization I led
Yes!!! I see this as a kind of “first they came for…” scenario. Women who aligned with Hugh Hefner were targeted with stigma and mean girl shunning (what’s now known as canceling). Once that became the norm in the feminist culture, it was only a matter of time before they used it against each other. "Trashing" got attention, but it didn't open a broad enough discussion.
Yes!
Perfect last paragraph, so true, and never thought of this as connected to/and or starting back during this Playboy era, really good perspective on it!
“ A singular focus on how men treated women meant a failure at addressing the way that women treated women. Actually, by taking full advantage of the stigma against playmates in their opposition to Playboy, feminists did more than simply ignore the issue”.
Reading “A Bunny’s Tale” with a beginner’s mind, instead of going into it thinking only of misogyny as the shiny object I’m supposed to be looking for, opened this up for me. It was revelatory.
In Ms. Stienams' treatment of the women working for Playboy, I can't help but draw parallels to women in the music industry, in particular rap and hip-hop. Would Steinam dare treat Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion in a similar fashion? I think we know the answer.